PETER SAGAL, HOST:
And now the game where folks who’ve come a extended way to get where they are go back just a couple of feet before receiving on their way once again. It really is named Not My Job. So actor Andre Royo was so excellent at playing a strung-out junkie on HBO’s “The Wire” that real drug users on the street utilised to offer him their stash. Because he’s now playing a lawyer on Fox’s show “Empire,” we assume folks stroll up to him and supply him $ 300 an hour. Andre Royo, welcome to WAIT WAIT… Do not Inform ME.
ANDRE ROYO: Thank you really a lot for getting me. And I’m…
ROYO: I’ve just got to say I am so much more high-priced than $ 300…
ROYO: …Just to let you know, yes.
SAGAL: Due to the fact I’ve been watching the show this week, and I was questioning – so tell me about your character who has the remarkable name Thursday Rawlings.
ROYO: Properly, you know, Thirsty Rawlings is a proud magna cum laude from the University of Guam, where he got his law degree.
ROYO: And he’s the kind of lawyer that, you know, will defend you in the courtroom or defend you in the courtyard. You know he has your back.
SAGAL: Correct. When we meet him, if I don’t forget correctly, in the quite 1st episode in which you appear in, he, if I’m not mistaken, blackmails a judge with images of him in a compromising predicament and hires folks to beat somebody up so as to steal something from them, which is…
ROYO: There is no evidence of that. There is no evidence of that to be true, so, you know…
SAGAL: That is excellent lawyering.
SAGAL: So “Empire” is this amazingly bigger-than-life show about this record empire and the individuals who run it. And what’s fascinating to me is, like, you played Bubbles on “The Wire,” which was realism. You know, it is was…
SAGAL: …Absolutely so gritty.
SAGAL: And now you happen to be performing this huge issue. Is your approach diverse as an actor?
ROYO: My method is not diverse. It is the audience’s strategy to me that becomes different. You know, one show is about realism and the other show is about, you know, pure entertainment. Some people want to give Bubbles a hug and some individuals want to slap the hell out of Thirsty.
SAGAL: So you were in all 5 seasons of “The Wire,” playing Bubbles. It’s an amazing overall performance. How several men and women come up to you and congratulate you, Andre Royo, for getting clean?
ROYO: (Laughter) A lot – a lot of individuals give me lots of hugs and tell me to maintain it clean, you know, do not go back.
SAGAL: And I know it’s a worry for every actor to be typecast. Have been you getting largely calls to go out and play other drug addicts and people with that kind of problem?
ROYO: I was. But, you know, you have got to don’t forget, I was typecast unemployed for a extended time.
PETER GROSZ: Cast is the critical portion of typecast.
ROYO: That’s precisely correct.
SAGAL: Yes, specifically.
SAGAL: Please typecast me. So do the actors on “Empire” have as a lot entertaining as I believe you do obtaining to, like, chew that scenery the way that you guys do?
ROYO: Much more, far more – I mean, when you know there is a paycheck following that, it’s a lot more enjoyable. It is a lot far more fun than you can ever think about.
SAGAL: Yeah. It’s also enjoyable due to the fact the folks who love the show, one of the things they love is Cookies. She’s the female lead of course. This, you know…
SAGAL: …Queen Lear character, and she’s dressed amazingly.
SAGAL: Every 30 seconds, she shows up in an additional outfit. You are the only other character in that show who dresses as properly as she does.
ROYO: You know what? I take that as a compliment. Thank you really a lot. We had to genuinely discover a color that no one would ever wear a full suit of it, and that is the 1st 1 I place on.
SAGAL: So I’ve heard you’d say your individual style is distinct from Thirsty’s?
ROYO: Effectively, a small bit far more fitted, yes. But, you know, I love colors. I like really going outdoors the box. But, you know, I would say that when I put on one thing, I want it to fit me. That is all.
SAGAL: Genuinely it is wonderful that your difficulty with Thirsty Rawling’s suits is they are not flattering sufficient.
SAGAL: Not the truth that they’re, like, fluorescent pink.
ROYO: Yeah, no, no, I like the colour. I like the colour. I just wanted to, you know, show off the physique a small bit, you know?
SAGAL: I understand.
SAGAL: You had a even though – you talked about receiving cast – you had a whilst just before you had been creating your living as an actor. I am assuming you have been performing all sorts of jobs. Every actor I know did. What have been some of the ones you did?
ROYO: You know, I did the regular ones that – you know, like waiting tables. I did building for a lengthy time. I think the final one particular that I had prior to I figured out I better do anything was operating in the Challenging Rock Cafe bathroom, generating positive people wash their hands and give them a cigarette on the way out.
SAGAL: Wait a minute, you have been one particular of these guys in the bathrooms?
ROYO: Yeah, I was working at the Tough Rock Cafe bathroom in New York. And I had the tuxedo on and spraying you with perfume or cologne on the way out, yes.
ROYO: I was somewhat of a psychiatrist, you know? I met some folks – you know, were on dates – I would tell them what to say and what not to say. And it happened all the time. Do I appear great? You appear great. Wash your hands.
ROYO: She doesn’t like it when you chew with your mouth open, yes.
GROSZ: I could see that although. I could that they stroll into the bathroom, and they are like oh God, I am obtaining such – oh, a distinguished gentleman in a tuxedo. I will ask him what he thinks. You are really productive, sir. You’re wearing a tuxedo.
ROYO: Yeah, that is right.
MARINA FRANKLIN: I did it all the time as nicely. I…
SAGAL: You do what?
FRANKLIN: I go into the bathroom, there’s usually a woman in the bathroom – not all the time in my life – but when it takes place…
FRANKLIN: And I ask her how my hair looks, and it’s excellent. It’s a excellent way…
ROYO: That’s right.
ROYO: That is correct. Listen, when there is nobody in the bathroom, we’re outside peeking at you all, looking at how you happen to be undertaking on your date. And then when we see you coming in, we run back into the bathroom and, you know, give you a grade.
SAGAL: Yeah, genuinely?
ROYO: Precisely. I give my small – at times I give them income – like, you need to have a tiny cash.
SAGAL: Well, Andre Royo, what a pleasure to speak to you. We have asked you here to play a game we’re calling…
BILL KURTIS: I Hold My Full “Wire” DVD Set Appropriate Next To My Neko Case Albums.
SAGAL: So you starred in “The Wire,” a Tv show far more beloved to NPR listeners than their own kids, and the explanation why all of us feel that we understand what life is really like in the mean streets of the inner city. So we’re going to ask you three queries about 3 other factors that NPR listeners will not shut up about.
SAGAL: If you get two appropriate, you will win our prize for one of our listeners – Carl Kasell’s voice on their answering machine. Bill, who is Andre Royo playing for?
KURTIS: Judith Allard of Pensacola, Fla.
SAGAL: OK, ready to play?
ROYO: I got you, Judith. I got you, child.
SAGAL: All right…
SAGAL: 1 factor NPR listeners will not shut up about is quinoa. In reality, they like it so significantly, which of these occurred? A, in 2011, American demand for the grain quinoa got so high it single-handedly saved the Bolivian quinoa farming market, B, in 2008, the name quinoa ultimately unseated Brooklyn at the best of the baby names list or C, in response to listener focus group in 2010, NPR launched the new show Quinoa Hour that almost bankrupted our firm.
ROYO: OK, I am going to say what happened was A. I can’t say it simply because it was really lengthy. But I’m going to say A.
SAGAL: It was – it was a lengthy thing.
ROYO: The lengthy one, yes.
SAGAL: But you are right – what happened was…
ROYO: That’s proper, infant.
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SAGAL: …The American obsession with eating quinoa raised all these Bolivian peasant farmers out of poverty, extremely very good. Now…
ROYO: Thank you. At the SAT test school – test guy – I often knew the extended ones were generally appropriate.
SAGAL: That is true, that’s a very good explanation.
FRANKLIN: Wow, that is impressive.
SAGAL: No wonder everyone gets…
GROSZ: I want to retake my SATs.
SAGAL: All right, second question – NPR listeners certain love their hybrid vehicles. Some people take that enjoy a tiny bit far and one – some folks have produced which of these? A, a hybrid hybrid hybrid, which has a gas engine, an electric engine, a bicycle crank and sails for windy days…
SAGAL: …B, the Pimpus, a completely tricked-out low-rider Prius with 20-inch rims, custom exhaust and a four,400-watt stereo system or C, a Prius school bus so the children of Marin County, Calif., can go to college with a clear conscience.
ROYO: Oh, oh, I’ve got to go with B, Pimp my ride. I imply…
SAGAL: You’re correct, the Pimpus.
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SAGAL: Pimp your Prius…
SAGAL: It was created – Pimpus, created by some automobile customizers in Sweden, and we’re assuming Swedish babes dig it.
ROYO: I adore it. My Yaris proper now I’ve got a fish tank in there. I know what they are speaking about.
SAGAL: You have a fish tank in your Yaris?
ROYO: Yeah, I’ve got a little beta fish in my Yaris, in the trunk.
GROSZ: That is my favored sentence that is ever been mentioned on this show, by the way.
SAGAL: That is great. Do you, Andre Royo, drive around LA in a Toyota Yaris with a beta fish in the trunk?
ROYO: You know that sounds attractive. Even when you mentioned it, you knew it sounded sexy.
SAGAL: It really is extremely sexy.
SAGAL: All right, you have one more query. Public radio listeners adore TED talks. There’s even an NPR show which is just folks speaking about TED talks.
SAGAL: But which of these, Andre, was a genuine TED speak? A, How To Tie Your Shoes, B, Why Mayonnaise Will Save The World, or C, Seethe, Plot, Strike – The Three Steps To Revenge.
ROYO: Oh, I’m going to have to say B, mayonnaise ’cause it saved my life a lot of times in the ghetto.
FRANKLIN: That’s appropriate, mayonnaise sandwiches.
SAGAL: All proper, no, I adore understanding that. I did not know that was a point. I am glad you mentioned that. But the answer was in truth How To Tie Your Footwear. It was a talk given in February 2005. But I’m telling you, I made up the mayonnaise issue, but Andre, you are ready to give the TED talk about mayonnaise saving your life.
ROYO: Yes, I’ll do that talk. We do it every single day over right here (laughter).
SAGAL: Bill, how did Andre Royo do on our quiz?
KURTIS: Did we find out a lot from Andre tonight? Whoa.
KURTIS: Two out of three, you are a winner, Andre.
ROYO: All correct.
ROYO: Thank you.
SAGAL: …That’s incredible.
SAGAL: Andre Royo starred as Bubbles on HBO’s “The Wire.” You can at the moment see him on “Empire” as Thirsty Rawlings and on Amazon’s “Hand Of God.” Andre Royo, what a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for joining us on WAIT WAIT… Do not Inform ME.
ROYO: Thank you very significantly. OK, take care.
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